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< | Since I started this Talk page and I get to edit everyone's stuff pretty soon, I have some sort of power over what goes on here. As such, I am going to pretend that whoever else comments will listen to what I say. I find it offensive and counter-productive to our conversation when we malign another person's comments by acting so incredulous as to be demeaning. There is a fine line between when criticism stops being constructive and sometimes we all (including myself) pass it. Eben is the benevolent monarch and he knows what he is doing, even though I question the effectiveness of some of the language he uses with his scary red text. If we are bemoaning the lack of empathy in the way we treat "other living things" we should at least be mindful of the fact that those other living things have feelings. We undermine the very purpose of this class when we scare people into silence, which is why some people never take a stab at joining the conversation. I Will edit your mean comments away. I AM THE MONARCH OF MY TALK PAGES AND MY TALK PAGES ARE FRIENDLY TALK PAGES :).
Nona: I disagree with your version of the facts (we can all edit, all the time - in fact I noticed you wanted a block quote and gave your comment the tag it needed to get there). That said, If my remarks gave unnecessary offence they were poorly crafted, and I never intended to scare anyone into silence. In fact I hope there will be some substantive response to what I've said because I am quite passionate about the ideas I've expressed. -- DRussellKraft - 02 Mar 2010
Actually, I had no intention of block quoting. I don't even know what the intended effect of a block quote is. I just don't know how to use this Internets and tube stuff and copied and pasted your text to add a color. Now I know what a tag is too. I will remove it now. You mis-interpret me. I wasn't suggesting that you scare anyone into silence, but that some of the language on this wiki does. I was, however, explaining that I would edit out things that I feel (subjective, I know, but I am self-declared Queen!) are mean. I know we can all edit and that my power is just as limited as yours, but the responsibility for the Talk pages does belong to its creator (me) and so I am using that false power to make a point and to protect anyone who wants to comment from feeling that they might have someone jump down her throat... | | | Post publishing note 2: This class is extremely important to me and my criticisms are made in light of my obligation to be an active force in my legal education.
I was pretty riled up after class today. Of course, part of the problem is that Eben is one of the most knowledgeable people I have met. Arguing with him feels like taking a paintball gun to a tank (it is difficult to use a metaphor because I know Eben can immediately break it down to its precise historical meaning and quickly strip away the basis of an ill-informed comparison). In general, this is good because it requires us to do our homework, and to choose our words carefully and precisely. Still, it leaves me knowing that my argument will always be vulnerable to some historical reality I have never contended with or the misuse of a word that wasn't even central to my point in the first place. | | |
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> | Since I started this Talk page and I get to edit everyone's stuff pretty soon, I have some sort of power over what goes on here. As such, I am going to pretend that whoever else comments will listen to what I say. I find it offensive and counter-productive to our conversation when we malign another person's comments by acting so incredulous as to be demeaning. There is a fine line between when criticism stops being constructive and sometimes we all (including myself) pass it. Eben is the benevolent monarch and he knows what he is doing, even though I question the effectiveness of some of the language he uses with his scary red text. If we are bemoaning the lack of empathy in the way we treat "other living things" we should at least be mindful of the fact that those other living things have feelings. We undermine the very purpose of this class when we scare people into silence, which is why some people never take a stab at joining the conversation. I Will edit your mean comments away. I AM THE MONARCH OF MY TALK PAGES AND MY TALK PAGES ARE FRIENDLY TALK PAGES :). | | | | |
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> | Nona: I disagree with your version of the facts (we can all edit, all the time - in fact I noticed you wanted a block quote and gave your comment the tag it needed to get there). That said, If my remarks gave unnecessary offence they were poorly crafted, and I never intended to scare anyone into silence. In fact I hope there will be some substantive response to what I've said because I am quite passionate about the ideas I've expressed. -- DRussellKraft - 02 Mar 2010
Actually, I had no intention of block quoting. I don't even know what the intended effect of a block quote is. I just don't know how to use this Internets and tube stuff and copied and pasted your text to add a color. Now I know what a tag is too. I will remove it now. You mis-interpret me. I wasn't suggesting that you scare anyone into silence, but that some of the language on this wiki does. I was, however, explaining that I would edit out things that I feel (subjective, I know, but I am self-declared Queen!) are mean. I know we can all edit and that my power is just as limited as yours, but the responsibility for the Talk pages does belong to its creator (me) and so I am using that false power to make a point and to protect anyone who wants to comment from feeling that they might have someone jump down her throat... |
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