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GregOrrFirstPaper 33 - 01 Nov 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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GregOrrFirstPaper 32 - 21 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." And a friend gave me Steve Jones' Y for my birthday one year. You've got male. An owl says who? Third base. I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. Remember The House of Mirth? Maybe Carry Fisher gave Ned Silverton something to white-tailed hornet dunderhead about. Heh. White Castle Hobbs Garry Shandean. K? Policy Vote? I used to work at Kash 'n Karry, some other relevant details in private personal life. "You know, I believe we have two lives: the life we learn with and the life we live with after that." Well, go ahead and mention Orwell, I guess, can probably mature nice even if there's some heretofore unknown stuff. Artsy. A content and sense audience/people muse functionality, some experience and design thinking. Confucius says pleasant humaneness ... | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. |
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GregOrrFirstPaper 31 - 05 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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> | Openness to changing/developing one's views/awareness coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which can lead to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. (There may be lepidoptery issues of content/exposure/relation/thought/feeling/equal temperament though ... I was nicknamed Little Man Tate, or Tate for short, in elementary school, and there's been more/different to think about that than I was aware of at the time. [Funny video where he's on the talk show and says "I bring in the mail" and recites the clipper ships poem currently unavailable on Youtube.] I don't want to wear red, ooh let's talk about colors, and be a sinful violent mess or whatever, I guess red's supposed to be like what happy/yum/heart some - are you blushing cause you like a giiirl? pomegranates - though it also conflates worse than that, I wear white like pure and good and nice and above board and dovish peaceful and comfortable/pleasant/light and normal/natural/clear, relaxed/unproblemed/unproblematic/unburdened/unburdening, though there's some existing/comfortable/appropriate proportion/spectrum/palette of color is how the reasoning/capriciousness thing is going and expressing on that these days, right now, with healthy/tasteful Bayesian/combinative buoyancy. It was like maybe May Day, Morris dancing whatnot, though I'd never heard of that, my brother who is named Daniel's birthday is May 1st. That one's green, as I gather... and green is pleasant/peaceful seeming to me - I'm Irish - though also conflated with other things (possibly Paddy O'Pagan's olive branch for all i know / don't know, possibly not knowing asymmetric information/situation one of the associations of green, what did/do you think of the movie Greenberg? He's Got A Lot On His Mind). What do you think/know about blue (on one hand, watch out for that blue Mulholland Drive box, on another hand it's nice cool balm water and sky, more pleasant/comfortable/appropriate than some bad red stuff), or other stuff? We were all Yellow... I was and am a normal nice guy ... in the green and white ... nice content/aspect pinball machine you got there ... ) | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." And a friend gave me Steve Jones' Y for my birthday one year. You've got male. An owl says who? Third base. I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. Remember The House of Mirth? Maybe Carry Fisher gave Ned Silverton something to white-tailed hornet dunderhead about. Heh. White Castle Roy Leviathan Garry Shandean. K? Policy Vote? I used to work at Kash 'n Karry, some other relevant details in private personal life. "You know, I believe we have two lives: the life we learn with and the life we live with after that." Well, go ahead and mention Orwell, I guess, can probably mature nice even if there's some heretofore unknown stuff. Artsy. A content and sense audience/people muse functionality, some experience and design thinking. Confucius says pleasant humaneness ... |
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GregOrrFirstPaper 30 - 05 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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GregOrrFirstPaper 27 - 05 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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| | | Openness to changing/developing one's views/awareness coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which can lead to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. (There may be lepidoptery issues of content/exposure/relation/thought/feeling/equal temperament though ... I was nicknamed Little Man Tate, or Tate for short, in elementary school, and there's been more/different to think about that than I was aware of at the time. [Funny video where he's on the talk show and says "I bring in the mail" and recites the clipper ships poem currently unavailable on Youtube.] I don't want to wear red, ooh let's talk about colors, and be a sinful violent mess or whatever, I guess red's supposed to be like what happy/yum/heart some - are you blushing cause you like a giiirl? pomegranates - though it also conflates worse than that, I wear white like pure and good and nice and above board and dovish peaceful though there's some existing/comfortable/appropriate proportion/spectrum/palette of color is how the reasoning/capriciousness thing is going and expressing on that these days, right now, with healthy/tasteful Bayesian/combinative buoyancy. It was like maybe May Day, Morris dancing whatnot, though I'd never heard of that, my brother who is named Daniel's birthday is May 1st. That one's green, as I gather... and green is pleasant/peaceful seeming to me - I'm Irish - though also conflated with other things (possibly Paddy O'Pagan's olive branch for all i know / don't know, possibly not knowing asymmetric information/situation one of the associations of green, what did/do you think of the movie Greenberg? He's Got A Lot On His Mind). What do you think/know about blue (on one hand, watch out for that blue Mulholland Drive box, on another hand it's nice cool balm water and sky, more pleasant/comfortable/appropriate than some bad red stuff), or other stuff? We were all Yellow... I was and am a normal nice guy ... in the green and white ... nice content/aspect pinball machine you got there ... ) | |
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." And a friend gave me Steve Jones' Y for my birthday one year. You've got male. An owl says who? Third base. I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. Remember The House of Mirth? Maybe Carry Fisher gave Ned Silverton something to white-tailed hornet dunderhead about. Heh. White Castle Roy Leviathan Garry Shandean. K? Policy Vote? I used to work at Kash 'n Karry, some other relevant details in private personal life. "You know, I believe we have two lives: the life we learn with and the life we live with after that." Well, go ahead and mention Orwell, I guess, can probably mature nice even if there's some heretofore unknown stuff. Artsy. A content and sense audience/people muse functionality, some experience and design thinking. Confucius says pleasant humaneness ... | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. |
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GregOrrFirstPaper 26 - 04 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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> | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation/exploration/interest/hope about things, good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time ("my computer froze" "is it frozen or still calculating?" "there's an insouciance/tolerance/acceptability/appreciability cushion with not too severe content/stakes, at least with some things" "within reason" "but your computer has to know specifically... things, at least some things, are specifically... "). Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively interesting/positive/graceful material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some, I'm eating a pomegranate right now, which is pleasant, "are you insouciant to eating a cantaloupe?" "um, no" "where is it on your insouciance meter?" "I don't like cantaloupe, though my dad does"), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | In this essay I will further explore structure underlying these phenomena/ideas and consider implications. I will consider content and reality, understanding and misunderstanding, people's participation in, appreciation of, and creative development through openness and reflection in thinking and communication, and issues of range and parsimony.
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GregOrrFirstPaper 25 - 04 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." And a friend gave me Steve Jones' Y for my birthday one year. You've got male. An owl says who? Third base. I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. Remember The House of Mirth? Maybe Carry Fisher gave Ned Silverton something to white-tailed hornet dunderhead about. Heh. White castle Roy Leviathan Garry Shandean. K? Policy Vote? I used to work at Kash 'n Karry, some other relevant details in private personal life. "You know, I believe we have two lives: the life we learn with and the life we live with after that." Well, go ahead and mention Orwell, I guess, can probably mature nice even if there's some heretofore unknown stuff. Artsy. A content and sense audience/people muse functionality, some experience and design thinking. Confucius says ... you speak Chin-ese, bro? | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. | | | A reflective orientation increases one’s range in the spectrum of reasoning and capriciousness, and position on that spectrum is part of one's condition/facility. On the razor's edge of interpretation/pragmatism, we have/accept some level of awareness and capriciousness in being/behaving pleasantly and reasonably. The mix of rationality and irrationality has some manifestation of two-sidedness in results, however, one example being that from the ground up in bowling I get some score between 0 and 300, I bowl pleasantly and reasonably more or less (I have not seen myself bowling on video... ) though I 'irrationally'/incapably/happenstantially/acceptingly/enjoyably do not bowl perfect games all the time, and we can sometimes be shocked by bigger misjudgments (ooh, hit the head pin but got the 7-10 split, did you know apparently the greek church is the hardest spare to make?, not sure what I'd see or how I'd feel about the possible bowling video of me, there might be some tuning feedback, though I bowl in a personally natural way, a bit like handwriting, I am ok with my handwriting, there is probably some natural feedback mechanism to seeing it, like a deaf person may not speak as well naturally because they don't have that sense feedback, these examples vaguely suggestive of my possibly controversial/delicate karaoke career, which I haven't seen on video though I do have ears, though it's one of those first-person subjective things, getting along, might be / probably would be some level of shock to observe, it may look in no way enviable. Oh, I actually have seen myself bowling on iPhone video, it was positive/mixed/variable/fine Frank Luntz / Robert Nozick morality/pleasantness epistemology tracking monitor/clicker wise, more or less, but that's just bowling, and what kinds/degrees of surveillance judgment (and possibly manipulation) are we dealing with anyway, personally and externally, to be reasonably kind/nice/good-oriented? Pretense/expectation/orientation to/comfort of benignity generally, internally/in-itself and relatingly/affectedly/affectingly, internal/external (including other internal, externalness of you to other) being/observation/relation/interaction membrane/frontier.). Range plus point about life / stuff / doing stuff, don't be a [redacted], get out there on the [possibly redacted], though with good moral/stuff guidance/limitation, for this essay loop part. | |
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." And a friend gave me Steve Jones' Y for my birthday one year. You've got male. An owl says who? Third base. I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. Remember The House of Mirth? Maybe Carry Fisher gave Ned Silverton something to white-tailed hornet dunderhead about. Heh. White castle Roy Leviathan Garry Shandean. K? Policy Vote? I used to work at Kash 'n Karry, some other relevant details in private personal life. "You know, I believe we have two lives: the life we learn with and the life we live with after that." Well, go ahead and mention Orwell, I guess, can probably mature nice even if there's some heretofore unknown stuff. Artsy. | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. |
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GregOrrFirstPaper 22 - 03 Oct 2019 - Main.GregOrr
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> | Openness to changing/developing one's views/awareness coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which can lead to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. (There may be lepidoptery issues of content/exposure/relation/thought/feeling/equal temperament though ... I was nicknamed Little Man Tate, or Tate for short, in elementary school, and there's been more/different to think about that than I was aware of at the time. [Funny video where he's on the talk show and says "I bring in the mail" and recites the clipper ships poem currently unavailable on Youtube.] I don't want to wear red, ooh let's talk about colors, and be a sinful violent mess or whatever, I guess red's supposed to be like what happy/yum/heart some - are you blushing cause you like a giiirl? pomegranates - though it also conflates worse than that, I wear white like pure and good and nice and above board and dovish peaceful though there's some existing/comfortable/appropriate proportion/spectrum/palette of color is how the reasoning/capriciousness thing is going and expressing on that these days, right now, with healthy/tasteful Bayesian/combinative buoyancy. It was like maybe May Day, Morris dancing whatnot, though I'd never heard of that, my brother who is named Daniel's birthday is May 1st. That one's green, as I gather... and green is pleasant/peaceful seeming to me - I'm Irish - though also conflated with other things (what, like Paddy O'Pagan's olive branch?). What do you think/know about blue (on one hand, watch out for that blue Mulholland Drive box, on another hand it's nice cool balm water and sky, more pleasant/comfortable/appropriate than some bad red stuff), or other stuff? We were all Yellow... I was and am a normal nice guy ... in the green and white ... nice pinball machine you got there ... ) | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. | | | Range and Parsimony | |
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> | Openness to changing/developing one's views/awareness coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which can lead to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. (There may be lepidoptery issues of content/exposure/relation/thought/feeling/equal temperament though ... I was nicknamed Little Man Tate, or Tate for short, in elementary school, and there's been more/different to think about that than I was aware of at the time. [Funny video where he's on the talk show and says "I bring in the mail" and recites the clipper ships poem currently unavailable on Youtube.] I don't want to wear red, ooh let's talk about colors, and be a sinful violent mess or whatever, I guess red's supposed to be like what happy/yum/heart some - are you blushing cause you like a giiirl? pomegranates - though it also conflates worse than that, I wear white like pure and good and nice and above board and dovish peaceful though there's some existing/comfortable/appropriate proportion/spectrum/palette of color is how the reasoning/capriciousness thing is going and expressing on that these days, right now, with healthy Bayesian/combinative buoyancy. It was like maybe May Day, Morris dancing whatnot, though I'd never heard of that, my brother who is named Daniel's birthday is May 1st. That one's green, as I gather... and green is pleasant/peaceful seeming to me - I'm Irish - though also conflated with other things (what, like Paddy O'Pagan's olive branch?). What do you think/know about blue (on one hand, watch out for that blue Mulholland Drive box, on another hand it's nice cool balm water and sky, more pleasant/comfortable/appropriate than some bad red stuff), or other stuff? We were all Yellow... I was and am a normal nice guy ... in the green and white ... nice pinball machine you got there ... ) | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. |
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> | Openness to changing/developing one's views/awareness coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which can lead to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. (There may be lepidoptery issues of content/exposure/relation/thought/feeling/equal temperament though ... I was nicknamed Little Man Tate, or Tate for short, in elementary school, and there's been more/different to think about that than I was aware of at the time. [Funny video where he's on the talk show and says "I bring in the mail" and recites the clipper ships poem currently unavailable on Youtube.] I don't want to wear red, ooh let's talk about colors, and be a sinful violent mess or whatever, I guess red's supposed to be like what happy/yum some - are you blushing cause you like a giiirl? pomegranates - though it also conflates worse than that, I wear white though there's some existing/comfortable/appropriate proportion/spectrum of color is how the reasoning/capriciousness thing is going and expressing on that these days, right now, with healthy Bayesian/combinative buoyancy. It was like maybe May Day, Morris dancing whatnot, though I'd never heard of that, my brother who is named Daniel's birthday is May 1st. That one's green, as I gather... and green is pleasant/peaceful seeming to me - I'm Irish - though also conflated with other things. What do you think/know about blue (on one hand, watch out for that blue Mulholland Drive box, on another hand it's nice cool balm water, more pleasant/comfortable/appropriate than some bad red stuff), or other stuff? We were all Yellow... I was and am a normal nice guy ... in the green and white ... ) | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's Watt, the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. |
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> | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation/exploration and interest/hope about things, good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time. Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively interesting/positive/graceful material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | In this essay I will further explore structure underlying these phenomena/ideas and consider implications. I will consider content and reality, understanding and misunderstanding, people's participation in, appreciation of, and creative development through openness and reflection in thinking and communication, and issues of range and parsimony.
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> | In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given apparent substantiality and consistency) and all subjective consciousnesses/souls. Each subjective consciousness/soul exists experientially with perceptual data and substance, additive to and part of the whole. While there is real material, a large common thoroughfare, experience and reality of good and right at least in some areas/cases/senses, conventional wisdom, common sense, ability to understand and operate individually and between people, because each person only has access to and is particular to a subset of the whole (possibly pending the Lama's suggestion to Carl Spackler), one naturally operates with situations, assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | | | | |
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? How unimportant/unintentional might some things be? An interesting note in Samuel Beckett's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_(novel)][Watt]], the title of which is probably or sounds/themes like it might be a pun for what (?), is "no symbols where none intended." I wrote a story called "The Squirrel and the Beaver" when I was young in which the primary issue/nature was what a couple of neighborhood friends were going to do with their time. | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. |
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> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future (or something like 'identify/point to content/value', in the sense of what mountain, probably something like the author's wonder of life, generally/personally/societally/interestedly/pleasantly/practically/accurately/correctly... , "baseball is life, the rest is just details"?, love, picture of wife and children on work desk...), and they survey/develop though have difficulty reaching consensus among various things and subgroup perceptions and interests. This provides foreground to personal experience/search/development of the title character, Ulrich, who experiences/sees actualities/possibilities and sides of things. Situations have particular/similar/different/combining/contrasting components, and even individual components have parts in this way, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation and interest/hope about things, good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time. Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively interesting/positive/graceful material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given its apparent substantiality and consistency) and all subjective consciousnesses/souls. Each subjective consciousness/soul exists experientially with perceptual data and substance, additive to and part of the whole. While there is real material, a large common thoroughfare, experience and reality of good and right at least in some cases/senses, conventional wisdom, common sense, ability to understand and operate individually and between people, because each person only has access to and is particular to a subset of the whole (possibly pending the Lama's suggestion to Carl Spackler), one naturally operates with situations, assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | |
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> | We have some content, sense, and communication, though our understanding and effort has some epistemological/substantial delicacy, as far as we know/understand anyway. We have our five regular senses, thoughts and feelings, with some subset of material experienced/known in some extent, various in kind/degree, consistency/contrast. We have tools of rationality and move along in reality/pace/efficiency of space and time. We have language to formulate/represent/express/communicate/organize reality bouquet material with some fidelity/effectiveness, with some development/boundedness of language and degree of facility with it (how expert a musician are you? what are you able to play with your instrument in comparison with reality beyond/separate from that?), and when a person has/says something, there are usually/often elements of approximate model between reality and understanding and speculative hypothesis subject to iterative development, confirmation/rejection, some other ways of having/developing/resolving. A linguistic representation might be characterized as a metaphor: a signal pointing to reference material, aside from possible non-referential and/or thing-in-itself ars poetica of linguistic material itself, lorem ipsum. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized similarly. Some Finnegan's Wake surf in phenomenology, though things are largely clear and well-understood, like I get school, I get laws, I get spatulas and other things, more or less, the composition of reality is largely sensible, my apartment and life makes sense to me. | | | There is sense/expression with some facility/difficulty and understanding of expression with some facility/difficulty. Expression conveys something subjective and becomes additional perceptual data for others. Evaluation commonly interprets expressional metaphors to be consistent with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common/connective between expression and material as one understands it and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though this may be substantially an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which commonly happens to some extent/degree, even amid substantial and often/generally sufficient common thoroughfare, with varying awareness/certainty/import/effort. | | | Openness to changing one's views coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which leads to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. | |
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> | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? What's on second? | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. |
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> | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation and interest/hope about things, good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time. Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively interesting/positive/graceful material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | In this essay I will further explore structure underlying these phenomena/ideas and consider implications. I will consider content and reality, understanding and misunderstanding, people's participation in, appreciation of, and creative development through openness and reflection in thinking and communication, and issues of range and parsimony.
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> | We have some content, sense, and communication, though our understanding and effort has some epistemological/substantial delicacy, as far as we know/understand anyway. We have our five regular senses, thoughts and feelings, with some subset of material experienced/known in some extent, various in kind/degree, consistency/contrast. We have tools of rationality and move along in reality/pace/efficiency of space and time. We have language to formulate/represent/express/organize reality bouquet material with some fidelity, with some development/boundedness of language and degree of facility with it (how expert a musician are you? what are you able to play with your instrument in comparison with reality beyond/separate from that?), and when a person has/says something, there are usually/often elements of approximate model between reality and understanding and speculative hypothesis subject to iterative development, confirmation/rejection, some other ways of having/developing/resolving. A linguistic representation might be characterized as a metaphor: a signal pointing to reference material, aside from possible non-referential and/or thing-in-itself ars poetica of linguistic material itself, lorem ipsum. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized similarly. | | | There is sense/expression with some facility/difficulty and understanding of expression with some facility/difficulty. Expression conveys something subjective and becomes additional perceptual data for others. Evaluation commonly interprets expressional metaphors to be consistent with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common/connective between expression and material as one understands it and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though this may be substantially an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which commonly happens to some extent/degree, even amid substantial and often/generally sufficient common thoroughfare, with varying awareness/certainty/import/effort. | | | Range and Parsimony | |
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> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future (or something like 'identify/point to content/value', in the sense of what mountain, probably something like the author's wonder of life, generally/personally/societally/interestedly/pleasantly/practically/accurately/correctly... , "baseball is life, the rest is just details?"), and they survey/develop though have difficulty reaching consensus among various things and subgroup perceptions and interests. This provides foreground to personal experience/search/development of the title character, Ulrich, who experiences/sees actualities/possibilities and sides of things. Situations have particular/similar/different/combining/contrasting components, and even individual components have parts in this way, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | | |
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> | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation and interest/hope about things, good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time. Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively interesting/positive/graceful material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | | |
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> | Intersubjective Reality and Communication | | | In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given its apparent substantiality and consistency) and all subjective consciousnesses/souls. Each subjective consciousness/soul exists experientially with perceptual data and substance, additive to and part of the whole. While there is real material, a large common thoroughfare, experience and reality of good and right at least in some cases/senses, conventional wisdom, common sense, ability to understand and operate individually and between people, because each person only has access to and is particular to a subset of the whole (possibly pending the Lama's suggestion to Carl Spackler), one naturally operates with situations, assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | |
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> | We have some content, sense, and communication, though our understanding and effort has some epistemological delicacy. We have our five regular senses, thoughts and feelings, with some subset of material experienced/known in some extent, various in kind/degree, consistency/contrast. We have tools of rationality and move along in reality/pace/efficiency of space and time. We have language to formulate/represent/express/organize reality bouquet material with some fidelity, with some development/boundedness of language and degree of facility with it (how expert a musician are you? what are you able to play with your instrument in comparison with reality beyond/separate from that?), and when a person has/says something, there are usually/often elements of approximate model between reality and understanding and speculative hypothesis subject to iterative development, confirmation/rejection, some other ways of having/developing/resolving. A linguistic representation might be characterized as a metaphor: a signal pointing to reference material, aside from possible non-referential and/or thing-in-itself ars poetica of linguistic material itself, lorem ipsum. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized similarly. | | | | |
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> | There is sense/expression with some facility/difficulty and understanding of expression with some facility/difficulty. Expression conveys something subjective and becomes additional perceptual data for others. Evaluation commonly interprets expressional metaphors to be consistent with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common/connective between expression and material as one understands it and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though this may be substantially an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which commonly happens to some extent/degree, even amid substantial and often/generally sufficient common thoroughfare, with varying awareness/certainty/import/effort. | | | Creative Communication | |
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> | Nietszche said, "Woe to him who hides wastelands within." Ideally and commonly, as children and adults, with some sense and value of good appropriateness, we can and do trust each other enough to participate expressively, including exposure of lack or misunderstanding as it goes. Heidegger said, “We ourselves are pointers pointing toward what calls to be thought about.” In actuality/experience/pertinence/interest... , we participate in and point to reality and direction. | | | Openness to changing one's views coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which leads to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. | | | Range and Parsimony | |
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> | A reflective orientation increases one’s range in the spectrum of reasoning and capriciousness, and position on that spectrum is part of one's condition/facility. On the razor's edge of interpretation/pragmatism, we have/accept some level of awareness and capriciousness in being/behaving pleasantly and reasonably. The mix of rationality and irrationality has some manifestation of two-sidedness in results, however, one example being that from the ground up in bowling I get some score between 0 and 300, I bowl pleasantly and reasonably more or less (I have not seen myself bowling on video... ) though I 'irrationally'/incapably/happenstantially do not bowl perfect games all the time, and we can sometimes be shocked by bigger misjudgments (not sure what I'd see or how I'd feel about the possible bowling video, there might be some tuning feedback, though I bowl in a personally natural way, a bit like handwriting, I am ok with my handwriting, there is probably some natural feedback mechanism to seeing it, like a deaf person may not speak as well naturally because they don't have that sense feedback, these examples vaguely suggestive of my possibly controversial/delicate karaoke career, which I haven't seen on video though I do have ears, though it's one of those first-person subjective things, getting along, might be / probably would be some level of shock to observe, it may look in no way enviable). | | | | |
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> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future (or something like 'identify/point to content/value', in the sense of what mountain, probably something like the author's wonder of life, generally/personally/societally/curiously/interestedly/pleasantly/practically/accurately/correctly... ), and they survey/develop though have difficulty reaching consensus among various things and subgroup perceptions and interests. This provides foreground to personal experience/search/development of the title character, Ulrich, who experiences/sees actualities/possibilities and sides of things. Situations have particular/similar/different/combining/contrasting components, and even individual components have parts in this way, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | | |
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> | He observes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular contents/interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich wonders about semi-certainty, considering internal and external material and phenomena, in curious observation and hope/interest of good stuff/truth. Reasoning is often sufficient as well as sometimes asymptotic and/or confounded, with some level of capriciousness contributing to decisions made (or not made) in finite time. Ulrich has/finds/develops/codifies some at least subjectively positive/interesting material as he goes (subjective to me as a reader as well as the character/author, it is a well-regarded book, at least by some), as do other characters, though the book is not concluded, Musil (do you think a muse pun is intended?) died while still writing it. | | | | |
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> | I intend to further explain structure underlying these phenomena/ideas and consider implications. I will consider content and reality, understanding and misunderstanding, people's participation in and creative development through openness and reflection in thinking and communication, and issues of range and parsimony. | | |
Intersubjective Reality and the Communication Problem | |
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> | In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given its apparent substantiality and consistency) and all subjective consciousnesses/souls. Each subjective consciousness/soul exists experientially with perceptual data and substance, additive to and part of the whole. While there is real material, a large common thoroughfare, experience and reality of good and right at least in some cases/senses, conventional wisdom, common sense, ability to understand and operate individually and between people, because each person only has access to and is particular to a subset of the whole (possibly pending the Lama's suggestion to Carl Spackler), one naturally operates with situations, assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | | | The machinery of the mind complicates the issue, producing internal inconsistencies and delicate expressions. Within the mind, one’s attempts to generalize fail to achieve complete consistency because perceptual data is contrasting and flawed, tools of rationality are bounded, and views are formed in finite time. Imperfect pre-linguistic notions are given form in language with a further loss of fidelity, attributable to the boundedness of language itself and an individual’s incomplete facility with it. Also, when a person says something, there is usually an element of speculative hypothesis in it looking for confirmation or some other means to resolution. In total, a linguistic representation might always be characterized as a metaphor: a signal that provides a reference that points to the underlying mental condition. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized in the same general way. | | | In this way, interpretations can veer from one thing to another, or from a thing to its opposite. Ideally, open and reflective communication finds its way to increasingly robust understanding. | |
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> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea [to spur the world to a better future (or something like 'represent content/value', in the sense of what mountain, probably something like the author's wonder of life, practically/curiously/interestedly/personally/correctly)], and they survey/develop though have difficulty reaching consensus among various things and subgroup perceptions and interests. This provides foreground to personal experience/search/development of the title character, Ulrich, who sees two sides in everything. Situations have different/contrasting components, and even individual components evoke different/contrasting experiences/interpretations, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty by seeking contrary and unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater truth. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | |
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> | I intend to further explain the structure underlying these ideas and consider implications. I will consider content and reality, understanding and misunderstanding, people's participation in and creative development through openness and reflection in thinking and communication, and issues of range and parsimony. | | |
Intersubjective Reality and the Communication Problem | | | Creative Communication | |
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> | Nietszche said, "Woe to him who hides wastelands within." Ideally and commonly, as children and adults, with some sense and value of good appropriateness, we would and do trust each other enough to participate expressively, including exposure of lack or misunderstanding as it goes. Heidegger said, “We ourselves are pointers pointing toward what calls to be thought about.” In actuality/experience/pertinence/interest... , we participate in and point to reality and direction. | | | Openness to changing one's views coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which leads to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. |
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< | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future, but they cannot reach consensus because subgroup perceptions and interests are desperately incompatible. This provides foreground to a personal search for answers by the title character, Ulrich, who sees two sides in everything. Situations have contrasting components, and even individual components evoke contrasting interpretations, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | >
> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future, but they have difficulty reaching consensus among different subgroup perceptions and interests. This provides foreground to a personal search for answers by the title character, Ulrich, who sees two sides in everything. Situations have contrasting components, and even individual components evoke contrasting interpretations, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | | |
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> | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty by seeking contrary and unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater truth. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | | | I intend to further explain the structure underlying these ideas and consider implications. I will argue that misunderstandings are pervasive and often insidious, and people can become more ‘creative’ through openness and reflection in communication, though this leads to a problem of parsimony.
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> | In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given its apparent substantiality and consistency) and the subjective worlds of all consciousnesses. Each subjective world contains unique perceptual data and is hence additive to the whole. While there is real material, a large common thoroughfare, experience and reality of good and right at least in some cases/senses, conventional wisdom, common sense, ability to understand and operate internally and between people, because each person only has access to a subset of the whole, however, one naturally operates with assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | | | The machinery of the mind complicates the issue, producing internal inconsistencies and delicate expressions. Within the mind, one’s attempts to generalize fail to achieve complete consistency because perceptual data is contrasting and flawed, tools of rationality are bounded, and views are formed in finite time. Imperfect pre-linguistic notions are given form in language with a further loss of fidelity, attributable to the boundedness of language itself and an individual’s incomplete facility with it. Also, when a person says something, there is usually an element of speculative hypothesis in it looking for confirmation or some other means to resolution. In total, a linguistic representation might always be characterized as a metaphor: a signal that provides a reference that points to the underlying mental condition. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized in the same general way. | |
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> | It is hard to express oneself, and a person’s expression, then, is hard to understand. It conveys something about his subjective world and becomes additional perceptual data for others. The more instinctual and capricious mode of evaluation interprets the metaphor to be as consistent as possible with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common between oneself and the communicator and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though it’s usually an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be further confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which commonly happens to some extent/degree, even amid substantial and often/generally sufficient common thoroughfare, with varying awareness/certainty/import/effort. | | | Creative Communication | | | The Parsimony Problem
A reflective orientation increases one’s range in the spectrum of reasoning and capriciousness, and one’s placement on that spectrum becomes an overarching risk/return tradeoff. On the razor's edge of interpretation, we accept some level of capriciousness in order to make choices when faced with practical needs. The mix of rationality and irrationality always manifests two-sidedness in results, however, and we are sometimes shocked by bigger misjudgments.
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| | | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty by seeking contrary and unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater truth. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness always contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | |
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> | I intend to further explain the structure underlying these ideas and consider implications. I will argue that misunderstandings are pervasive and often insidious, and people can become more ‘creative’ through openness and reflection in communication, though this leads to a problem of parsimony. | | |
Intersubjective Reality and the Communication Problem
In a definition of reality, I would include the objective world (I assume this substratum exists, given its stubborn consistency) and the subjective worlds of all consciousnesses. Each subjective world contains unique perceptual data and is hence additive to the whole. Because each person only has access to a subset of the whole, however, one naturally operates with assumptions, interests, understandings, and meanings that differ from others’. | |
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> | The machinery of the mind complicates the issue, producing internal inconsistencies and delicate expressions. Within the mind, one’s attempts to generalize fail to achieve complete consistency because perceptual data is contrasting and flawed, tools of rationality are bounded, and views are formed in finite time. Imperfect pre-linguistic notions are given form in language with a further loss of fidelity, attributable to the boundedness of language itself and an individual’s incomplete facility with it. Also, when a person says something, there is usually an element of speculative hypothesis in it looking for confirmation or some other means to resolution. In total, a linguistic representation might always be characterized as a metaphor: a signal that provides a reference that points to the underlying mental condition. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized in the same general way. | | | | |
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> | It is hard to express oneself, and a person’s expression, then, is hard to understand. It conveys something about his subjective world and becomes additional perceptual data for others. The more instinctual and capricious mode of evaluation interprets the metaphor to be as consistent as possible with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common between oneself and the communicator and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though it’s usually an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be further confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which I think is always happening to some extent, even when people don’t realize it. | | | Creative Communication |
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> | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty by seeking contrary and unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater truth. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness always contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | | | I intend to further explain the structure underlying these ideas and consider the implications. I will argue that misunderstandings are pervasive and often insidious, and people can become more ‘creative’ through openness and reflection in communication, though this leads to a problem of parsimony. | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? | |
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> | In Robert Musil's The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is given the opportunity to choose an idea to spur the world to a better future, but they cannot reach consensus because subgroup perceptions and interests are desperately incompatible. This provides foreground to a personal search for answers by the title character, Ulrich, who sees two sides in everything. Situations have contrasting components, and even individual components evoke contrasting interpretations, “Like watching someone eat silently, without sharing his appetite: You suddenly perceive only swallowing movements, which look in no way enviable.” | | | | |
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> | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” Ulrich further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty by seeking contrary and unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater synthesis. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness always contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | | | I intend to further explain the structure underlying these ideas and consider the implications. I will argue that misunderstandings are pervasive and often insidious, and people can become more ‘creative’ through openness and reflection in communication, though this leads to a problem of parsimony. | |
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> | The machinery of the mind complicates the issue, producing internal inconsistencies and delicate expressions. Within the mind, one’s attempts to generalize fail to achieve complete consistency because perceptual data is contrasting and flawed, tools of rationality are bounded, and views are formed in finite time. Imperfect pre-linguistic notions are given form in language with a further loss of fidelity, attributable to the boundedness of language itself and an individual’s incomplete facility with it. Also, when a person says something, there is usually an element of speculative hypothesis in it looking for confirmation or some other means to resolution. A linguistic representation might always be characterized as a metaphor: a signal that provides a reference that points to the underlying mental condition. Layered on top of this are supra-linguistic cues such as context, structure, tone, and irony, which further refine the message to make it a more precise pointer. Non-linguistic statements, such as facial expressions, body language, and visual arts, may be further added or stand on their own as expressions that can be characterized in the same general way. | | | | |
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> | It is hard to express oneself, and a person’s expression, then, is hard to understand. It conveys something about his subjective world and becomes additional perceptual data for others. The more instinctual and capricious mode of evaluation interprets the metaphor to be as consistent as possible with one’s own pre-existing subjective world. One tends to lock into what is perceived as common between oneself and the communicator and reject, ignore, or not hear the rest. Though it’s usually an unconscious process, logically this may involve imputing to him underlying assumptions and experience similar to one’s own or identifying which communication script one is familiar with that he seems closest to following. Responses then start with this interpretation while adding some related expression of one’s own. What can be funny or tragic is that the first communicator will often interpret the response under the assumption that the other has understood the first expression as intended, and follow-up can be further confused. This is what we call talking past one another, which I think is usually happening to some extent, even when people don’t realize it. | | | Creative Communication | |
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> | Nietszche said, "Woe to him who hides wastelands within." Ideally, we would trust each other enough to make our inevitably flawed expressions, especially those exposing misunderstanding. Heidegger said, “We ourselves are pointers pointing toward what calls to be thought about.” While we can't quite say what we hope to say, we at least point the direction.
Openness to changing one's views coupled with active reflection on others' expressions allows access to a greater slice of intersubjective reality, which leads to new and more complete ideas. Moreover, greater empathy to others’ expressions helps one to be a clarifying and productive communication partner. | | | Reflection on the processes of constructing expressions allows more accurate and productive interpretation. What’s his situation? What are his interests? What’s his intention? What’s the tone? Is he earnest or ironic? What’s there that I haven’t incorporated? What seems to be missing? What do I know that might be relevant? What don’t I know that might be relevant? What kind of mistake might he be making? What if I’m making the mistake and not him? What might a third person have a frustrated urge to tell me about it? What might be the next step? | |
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> | He concludes, “Meaning lies roughly halfway between reasoning and capriciousness,” with common forms of capriciousness including “how we privilege particular interpretations through cultural or personal preunderstanding” and “how we unquestionably seek the firm and solid in life as urgently as a land animal that has fallen into the water.” More self-aware and less self-interested reasoning further interrogates conditions of semi-certainty, seeking contrary or unaccounted for internal and external evidence in hopes of greater synthesis. Yet reasoning appears, even in its best light, to be asymptotic, and some level of capriciousness always contributes to decisions that are made (or not made) in finite time. | | | | |
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Robinson has found a niche that suits him. He’s energetic, advocates ably for the weak, influences the community, and has mystic visions of metamorphoses between lawyers and prisoners.
Arthur Edens is the legendary litigator who suddenly comes to the point where he cannot tolerate the gulf between what’s inside him and what’s outside. Celebrating a billable hours milestone, he finds himself with two Lithuanian prostitutes, unable to stop thinking about what he’s become: “Is this me? Am I this freak organism who’s been sent here to sleep and eat and defend this one horrific chain of carcinogenic molecules … is that my Grail? Two Lithuanian mouths on my __?”
Michael Clayton has a niche, though an unfavorable connotation is put on the word because his role as a fixer doesn’t satisfy his sense of self. He likes being great at something, but eventually wants a way out. He gambles, and at 45 is broke. “I’ve been riding shotgun for 12 years and I’ve got no equity.” He later claims not to be the enemy, but he doesn’t know what to say when asked, “Then who are you?”
Karen Crowder has a tenuous grasp on her counterfeit position. She compulsively rehearses party lines, sweats profusely, and, with a twitch, orders two murders. She’s desperate to fit herself to the role because she’s worked so hard to succeed and this is all she has.
This world works for Barry Grissom, though. “He’s an asshole, but he knows it.” He seems perfectly at peace with that and has a certain grace.
John Mack, CEO Morgan Stanley
John Mack similarly expressed little compunction when asked by Charlie Rose, “What’s the best thing you’ve learned about yourself in the crisis?” He answered, “Charlie, that’s a great question. I’ve learned that I love the action. I’ve learned that the people who work for me are very important to me. And I’ve learned that at the end of the day, no matter what’s at stake, you have to do what your heart tells you to do.” He seems like a guy who’s where he belongs really.
Example Summary
What I take from these examples is that the more your job flows from and gives scope to your self, the better off you’ll be. External judgments of morality don’t factor.
Back and Forth
Arthur and Michael together blow the whistle on the bad guys, belatedly but effectively asserting their selves into their lives. It would be nice, though, if our careers started off on the right foot by thinking about positive statements of goals.
Primary among barriers, though, is that it’s difficult to agree on what is to be done. In The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is charged with choosing an idea that represented their culture and could serve as a worldwide aspiration. They discuss ideas endlessly without nearing consensus. The title character, Ulrich, keeps two folders, one marked “Forward To” and the other “Back To”. As a group, they are unable even to decide whether they prefer tradition or progress.
Ulrich, somewhat facetiously, suggests that Austria appoint a permanent Secretary of Precision and Soul to guide them. I think, to some degree, that’s what we’re hoping for in Barack Obama. But, somewhat uninspiringly, he and his team have so far focused on “Back To.”
When asked by Charlie Rose, “In the future, how will the system be different?” John Mack hesitated before offering, “Bear Stearns is no longer in business. Lehman Brothers is no longer in business. Merrill Lynch is part of Bank of America. The two remaining investment banks are bank holding companies. So that’s a huge change. Number one. Number two, I think we’re going to be bigger.”
What “Forward To” could look like seems to be the burning question.
- I think the Musil/Mack frame works better than the "go with the flow inside you" argument made by the middle paragraphs, including the "how everything is like Michael Clayton" segment. So this is really more about "Back To" and "Forward To" at a time of cultural uncertainty, for which your reassurance that all will be well if you find yourself inside is both a talisman and a "forward to" not under others' complete control. Rewritten with that emphasis and I think you might be onto something.
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Beyond Happiness
-- By GregOrr - 27 Feb 2009
In looking for satisfaction, I’m drawn to a principle identified in discussion of Robinson… do things that flow from and give scope to one’s self. But Robert Musil, whose The Man Without Qualities I love, suggests:
“On this frontier between what goes on inside us and what goes on outside, some kind of communication is missing, and they adapt to each other only with tremendous losses. One might almost say that the life we lead in reality is the dark side of our good desires, and our evil desires are the dark side of the life we lead in reality.”
Divergent objectives, rigidity of roles, and the clumsiness of language prevent the desired harmonization.
Lawyers have a particular ambition to bring the world in line with their aims – to make change in society using words – but they face amplified constraints due to entrenched interests, constricting procedures, and an overwhelming amount of language. Many have had their lives and desires perverted. With the world now wobbly and searching for ideas, however, we seem to have a clearer opportunity to remake institutions to reflect who we are and what we want.
Harmonizing
I can imagine several benefits to harmonizing what goes on inside and outside me.
(1) Health: It would make me healthier, more energetic, and a better influence on others. Bile results when I dislike or disagree with what I’m doing, and I feel frustrated and insecure if not understood or valued.
(2) Equity: I would have a proper place in the world.
(3) Evolution: If I don’t assert myself, then I’m not playing my role in an evolving world. Discordant elements help break out of local maxima to find bigger prizes.
(4) Grace: When what’s inside and outside resonate, one might experience a state of grace, or even blips of transcendent bliss.
Complete harmonization might only be found in solitude, but a lawyer who finds a significant degree of it can achieve scope and impact in the world.
Examples
We haven’t been introduced to many lawyers, but I can give some contrast of harmonizing success versus perversions of lives and desires.
C. Oliver Robinson
Robinson has found a niche that suits him. He’s energetic, advocates ably for the weak, influences the community, and has mystic visions of metamorphoses between lawyers and prisoners.
Arthur Edens is the legendary litigator who suddenly comes to the point where he cannot tolerate the gulf between what’s inside him and what’s outside. Celebrating a billable hours milestone, he finds himself with two Lithuanian prostitutes, unable to stop thinking about what he’s become: “Is this me? Am I this freak organism who’s been sent here to sleep and eat and defend this one horrific chain of carcinogenic molecules … is that my Grail? Two Lithuanian mouths on my __?”
Michael Clayton has a niche, though an unfavorable connotation is put on the word because his role as a fixer doesn’t satisfy his sense of self. He likes being great at something, but eventually wants a way out. He gambles, and at 45 is broke. “I’ve been riding shotgun for 12 years and I’ve got no equity.” He later claims not to be the enemy, but he doesn’t know what to say when asked, “Then who are you?”
Karen Crowder has tenuous grasp on her counterfeit position. She compulsively rehearses party lines, sweats profusely, and, with a twitch, orders two murders. She’s desperate to fit herself to the role because she’s worked so hard to succeed and this is all she has.
This world works for Barry Grissom, though. “He’s an asshole, but he knows it.” He seems perfectly at peace with that and has a certain grace.
John Mack, CEO Morgan Stanley
John Mack similarly expressed little compunction when asked by Charlie Rose, “What’s the best thing you’ve learned about yourself in the crisis?” He answered, “Charlie, that’s a great question. I’ve learned that I love the action. I’ve learned that the people who work for me are very important to me. And I’ve learned that at the end of the day, no matter what’s at stake, you have to do what your heart tells you to do.” He seems like a guy who’s where he belongs really.
Example Summary
What I take from these examples is that the more your job flows from and gives scope to your self, the better off you’ll be. External judgments of morality don’t factor.
Back and Forth
Arthur and Michael together blow the whistle on the bad guys, belatedly but effectively asserting their selves into their lives. It would be nice, though, if our careers started off on the right foot by thinking about positive statements of goals.
Primary among barriers, though, is that it’s difficult to agree on what is to be done. In The Man Without Qualities, a group assembled from Austrian society is charged with choosing an idea that represented their culture and could serve as a worldwide aspiration. They discuss ideas endlessly without nearing consensus. The title character, Ulrich, keeps two folders, one marked “Forward To” and the other “Back To”. As a group, they are unable even to decide whether they prefer tradition or progress.
Ulrich, somewhat facetiously, suggests that Austria appoint a permanent Secretary of Precision and Soul to guide them. I think, to some degree, that’s what we’re hoping for in Barack Obama. But, somewhat uninspiringly, he and his team have so far focused on “Back To.”
When asked by Charlie Rose, “In the future, how will the system be different?” John Mack hesitated before offering, “Bear Stearns is no longer in business. Lehman Brothers is no longer in business. Merrill Lynch is part of Bank of America. The two remaining investment banks are bank holding companies. So that’s a huge change. Number one. Number two, I think we’re going to be bigger.”
What “Forward To” could look like seems to be the burning question.
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